Can Atheism support such values? I don't see how, but not everyone agrees with me. In order to stimulate thought on this topic, two student groups at Columbia University (Columbia Faith and Action and the Columbia Humanist Society) hosted a short debate between me and Kile Jones, an atheist with a strong background in theology. Though time was short, we were able to lay out our basic positions. Here's the discussion:
The most interesting aspect of the debate for me was Kile's insistence, in his conclusion, that we shouldn't even ask where morality comes from. In my opening statement, I had pointed out that people often shift their levels of skepticism (I think all human beings do this) in order to reject certain beliefs while retaining others. Kile said that his skepticism level is high, and he is certainly correct when it comes to God, Christianity, etc. But if we can't even ask where morality comes from, how skeptical are we concerning morality? It seems, then, that we must accept the existence of objective moral values by faith, even though we demand hard evidence for the existence of other things.
"... that we must accept the existence of objective moral values by faith, even though we demand hard evidence for the existence of other things."
ReplyDeleteThat is EXACTLY right brother. Mr. Jones never seemed to notice that about his own beliefs. It is "anything but Jesus Christ."
Thank God for the Holy Ghost, who convicts us of sin so that we look for Jesus Christ as natural men if we respond to Him humbly. Without Him (the Holy Ghost), man would NEVER seek God on His own (Rom 3).
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